norfolkwesternhenry
Lead Service Attendant
Many times a year I get driven, but for the occasion, nobody is available or willing to go with me, or drive me. On the way back my mom can drive me, but the way there is the main concern.
Maybe I missed it but I don't think he intimated any intention of violating the policy. He would like the policy changed to allow exceptions. At his age he doesn't understand why bureaucracy is going to win out in this situation and there won't be an exception for him no matter how mature he believes he is or how logical it seem to him that he should be an exception.Sure the cutoff age is arbitrary, but there have been high profile cases where a kid under 16 has been removed from Amtrak. You don't sound as f you wish to try without an assurance that you'll be able to make it.
I take it that you've probably done the current "interview" yourself for travel between staffed stations. I understand it's pretty basic. Just asking if the kid knows where to ride on the train and to meet the station agent at the destination. I was reading one blog about a kid who ended up meeting the adult without checking in with the station agent, and the adult was called to make sure that the kid was with him. That's basically what the station agent is supposed to do.
We agree.At the end of the day, these are your children and if you're ok shipping them through multiple states as if they were luggage and dropping them off at an unattended station when you can't even leave them unattended in a car at convenience store for 10 minutes, I say more power to you. I'm all for a policy change. My version would call for zero liability and tiered travel. In other words, at 8 years old, you can travel up to 4 hours. At 10 years old, you can travel up to 6 hours but if you travel multiple times throughout the year, you may travel up to 8 hours.
Very good advice. Write to the top.Something along those lines because as I indicated, some of the unattended minors are seasoned veterans, and often behave better than the adults.
I still think you should write the letter and flip the script. Tell them you'd happily comply with the policy (as you did in the past) except the station is now unstaffed.
Isn't that completely and totally ****ed up? I mean, really. It needs to be OK for kids to ask strangers for help. What sort of society is this, anyway?Once a lost kid (14 actually) found me in an area with poor cell phone coverage, and asked me for help getting back to his high school group. I was a little freaked out about the possibility that someone sees a teenager with an solo unrelated adult male and takes it the wrong way. I actually helped him, but I did think about telling him to simply wait somewhere and I would call for help
In other systems they'll probably just take it as they see an issues. If they see a six year old taking the train solo and getting lost, that's probably enough.For a contrast to Amtrak's crazy overbearing irrational policy, it appears that the majority of commuter railroads have literally NO policy restrictions on unaccompanied minors, although an old NY MTA policy (no longer present on the website) "discourages" unaccompanied children under the age of 8.
Some of Metro-North's stations (Metro-North is part of MTA) are literally one-car-door-wide wooden platforms in wilderness areas, without so much as a light or a road.
This is probably going too far in the other direction.
If you want to make a serious attempt to change policy, it might be worthwhile to look up the policies (or lack thereof) of the other railroads in the country and write up a comparison, showing how over-the-top unreasonable Amtrak's is. Then you can propose something measured and reasonable. Start a political campaign.
One where adult males can be suspected of abducting children for sexual gratification.Isn't that completely and totally ****ed up? I mean, really. It needs to be OK for kids to ask strangers for help. What sort of society is this, anyway?Once a lost kid (14 actually) found me in an area with poor cell phone coverage, and asked me for help getting back to his high school group. I was a little freaked out about the possibility that someone sees a teenager with an solo unrelated adult male and takes it the wrong way. I actually helped him, but I did think about telling him to simply wait somewhere and I would call for help
For a contrast to Amtrak's crazy overbearing irrational policy, it appears that the majority of commuter railroads have literally NO policy restrictions on unaccompanied minors, although an old NY MTA policy (no longer present on the website) "discourages" unaccompanied children under the age of 8.
Some of Metro-North's stations (Metro-North is part of MTA) are literally one-car-door-wide wooden platforms in wilderness areas, without so much as a light or a road.
This is probably going too far in the other direction.
If you want to make a serious attempt to change policy, it might be worthwhile to look up the policies (or lack thereof) of the other railroads in the country and write up a comparison, showing how over-the-top unreasonable Amtrak's is. Then you can propose something measured and reasonable. Start a political campaign.
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