New Zephyr Trackwork and Permanent Schedule Change

[JAChooChoo]

What is the logic of #6 running 20 minutes earlier DEN-CHI ?

 

[ALC Rail Writer]

What is the logic of #6 running 20 minutes earlier DEN-CHI ?

They don't need the time.

 

[sky12065]

Amtrak now requires pax to board multiple trains at the same time. Didn't you read the fine print?

I can understand boarding two trains, but three? I say two because the two trains can run side by side and you can have a foot in each train and ride it like you're skiing! It's gonna hurt really really bad though if you come upon a pole between the two tracks! :huh:

 

[GG-1]

Nobody is being serious here and you needn't take umbrage to anything said.

Serious this group, absolutely no way, besides who in their right mind would want to be normal or Average!

 

Aloha

 

[rrdude]

Nobody is being serious here and you needn't take umbrage to anything said.

Serious this group, absolutely no way, besides who in their right mind would want to be normal or Average!

 

Aloha

"Rail Fan" and "Normal" have NEVER even been in the same dictionary, or for that matter, existed on the same planet........ (that would be Earth for some of us......)

 

[Rafi]

Amtrak just issued the following today:

01         TRACKWORK IN UTAH ON THE CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR ROUTE      02                                                              

03 FROM TRAIN ORIGIN DATES IN EMY AND CHI THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24

04 THROUGH FRIDAY, OCTOBER 9, TRAINS 5 AND 6, THE CALIFORNIA    

05 ZEPHYR, WILL OPERATE ON THEIR NORMAL ROUTE THROUGH COLORADO, 

06 BUT ON A MODIFIED SCHEDULE.                                  

07 - TRAIN 5 WILL OPERATE NORMALLY CHI THROUGH ARRIVAL GJT,     

08   DEPART GJT AT 630P, 2 HR 20 MIN LATER, GRADUALLY MAKE      

09   UP TIME, AND ARRIVE IN EMY 630P, 1 HR 20 MIN LATER.        

10 - TRAIN 6 WILL OPERATE NORMALLY EMY THROUGH ELK, ARRIVE      

11   AND DEPART SLC ONE HOUR EARLIER, DEPART DEN 20 MINUTES     

12   EARLIER, AND OPERATE 20 MINUTES EARLIER DEN THROUGH CHI.   

13                                                               

14 THIS IS TO ACCOMMODATE A UNION PACIFIC TIE REPLACEMENT       

15 PROJECT WEST OF GREEN RIVER, UTAH.  (THIS WORK IS ACTUALLY   

16 GOING ON NOW BUT IS NOT AFFECTING THE TRAIN BECAUSE IT IS    

17 CURRENTLY DETOURING THROUGH WYOMING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT.)    

18 BEGINNING OCTOBER 10, A NEW PERMANENT SCHEDULE WILL BE       

19 ESTABLISHED.

01           CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR SCHEDULE CHANGE                     02                                                                

03 BEGINNING WITH TRAINS ORIGINATING IN CHICAGO AND EMERYVILLE    

04 ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 10 (AND AFTER COMPLETION OF THE TRACKWORK 

05 PROJECT ON PAGE 42), TRAINS 5 AND 6, THE CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR,    

06 WILL OPERATE ON A NEW PERMANENT SCHEDULE.                      

07                                                                 

08 - TRAIN 5 OPERATES ON CURRENT (NON-TRACKWORK) SCHEDULE         

09   CHI THROUGH SLC, THEN:  ELK 303A, WNN 540A, RNO 836A,        

10   TRU 937A, COX 1148A, RSV 1257P, SAC 213P, DAV 244P,          

11   MTZ 326P, AR EMY 410P, ONE HOUR EARLIER.                     

12                                                                

13 - TRAIN 6 OPERATES 40 MIN LATER DP EMY (AT 950A) THROUGH       

14   WNN, THEN:  ELK 1011P, SLC 345A/410A, PRO 515A, HER 717A,    

15   GRI 839A, GJT 1103A, GSC 1250P, GRA 352P, FRA 430P,          

16   DEN 718P/750P (20 MINUTES EARLIER), THEN OPERATES 20         

17   MINUTES EARLIER DP DEN THROUGH AR CHI (AT 330P).

Rafi

I guess that it doesn't make a whole lot of difference, but in the TWO emails that I received from Amtrak today said that I would be departing EMY 9/27 at 9:10 AM (no change) and arriving CHI 9/29 at 3:30 PM (the change). I called "Julie" to confirm my reservations, and the agent stated that the EMY departure time for train 6 :huh: was 9:10 AM on 9/27.

Does anyone have the facts?

Not sure where the confusion is... On 9/27, the train does depart at 9:10 AM and gets to Chicago 20 mins earlier. It's not until October 10 that the EMY departure changes.

 

[ThayerATM]

Amtrak just issued the following today:

01         TRACKWORK IN UTAH ON THE CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR ROUTE      02                                                              

03 FROM TRAIN ORIGIN DATES IN EMY AND CHI THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 24

04 THROUGH FRIDAY, OCTOBER 9, TRAINS 5 AND 6, THE CALIFORNIA    

05 ZEPHYR, WILL OPERATE ON THEIR NORMAL ROUTE THROUGH COLORADO, 

06 BUT ON A MODIFIED SCHEDULE.                                  

07 - TRAIN 5 WILL OPERATE NORMALLY CHI THROUGH ARRIVAL GJT,     

08   DEPART GJT AT 630P, 2 HR 20 MIN LATER, GRADUALLY MAKE      

09   UP TIME, AND ARRIVE IN EMY 630P, 1 HR 20 MIN LATER.        

10 - TRAIN 6 WILL OPERATE NORMALLY EMY THROUGH ELK, ARRIVE      

11   AND DEPART SLC ONE HOUR EARLIER, DEPART DEN 20 MINUTES     

12   EARLIER, AND OPERATE 20 MINUTES EARLIER DEN THROUGH CHI.   

13                                                               

14 THIS IS TO ACCOMMODATE A UNION PACIFIC TIE REPLACEMENT       

15 PROJECT WEST OF GREEN RIVER, UTAH.  (THIS WORK IS ACTUALLY   

16 GOING ON NOW BUT IS NOT AFFECTING THE TRAIN BECAUSE IT IS    

17 CURRENTLY DETOURING THROUGH WYOMING FOR ANOTHER PROJECT.)    

18 BEGINNING OCTOBER 10, A NEW PERMANENT SCHEDULE WILL BE       

19 ESTABLISHED.

01           CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR SCHEDULE CHANGE                     02                                                                

03 BEGINNING WITH TRAINS ORIGINATING IN CHICAGO AND EMERYVILLE    

04 ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 10 (AND AFTER COMPLETION OF THE TRACKWORK 

05 PROJECT ON PAGE 42), TRAINS 5 AND 6, THE CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR,    

06 WILL OPERATE ON A NEW PERMANENT SCHEDULE.                      

07                                                                 

08 - TRAIN 5 OPERATES ON CURRENT (NON-TRACKWORK) SCHEDULE         

09   CHI THROUGH SLC, THEN:  ELK 303A, WNN 540A, RNO 836A,        

10   TRU 937A, COX 1148A, RSV 1257P, SAC 213P, DAV 244P,          

11   MTZ 326P, AR EMY 410P, ONE HOUR EARLIER.                     

12                                                                

13 - TRAIN 6 OPERATES 40 MIN LATER DP EMY (AT 950A) THROUGH       

14   WNN, THEN:  ELK 1011P, SLC 345A/410A, PRO 515A, HER 717A,    

15   GRI 839A, GJT 1103A, GSC 1250P, GRA 352P, FRA 430P,          

16   DEN 718P/750P (20 MINUTES EARLIER), THEN OPERATES 20         

17   MINUTES EARLIER DP DEN THROUGH AR CHI (AT 330P).

Rafi

I guess that it doesn't make a whole lot of difference, but in the TWO emails that I received from Amtrak today said that I would be departing EMY 9/27 at 9:10 AM (no change) and arriving CHI 9/29 at 3:30 PM (the change). I called "Julie" to confirm my reservations, and the agent stated that the EMY departure time for train 6 :huh: was 9:10 AM on 9/27.

Does anyone have the facts?

Not sure where the confusion is... On 9/27, the train does depart at 9:10 AM and gets to Chicago 20 mins earlier. It's not until October 10 that the EMY departure changes.

I guess I'm not a "quick study." This morning, after reading through the announcement a few times, I finally figured out what it was trying to say, and you're right---obviously.

I've revised my timetable for train 6 on 9/27, 9/28, and 9/29. Gives us a little more time in DEN.