There are a lot of routes besides New York to Pittsburgh that having two train options would be a good idea.engine999 said:I think Amtrak is makin g a grave mistake. Its one thing cutting a train with low ridership, however the three rivers and pennslyvanian having been doing very well in the last few months. I think having the two train options to pitsburg from nyp also was a good idea. Allows people to decide which time is more conient for them.
Yep, the "Palmetto Bug" will soon be departing Florida for good! The situation is good for TPA and LAK, but for WDO, OCA, WWD, and DDE it means no train service any longer, but a darned bus! And as for jobs, it doesn't look too good either. :angry:Guest_Chatter163 said:The changes are much more involved than just these routes.
Amtrak press release on upcoming schedule changes
Amtrak would probably get good passanger loads from those station if they offer sevice at reasonable hours of the day. Maybe they will bring back train splitting on one of the two fl service trains.Amtrak OBS Employee said:Yep, the "Palmetto Bug" will soon be departing Florida for good! The situation is good for TPA and LAK, but for WDO, OCA, WWD, and DDE it means no train service any longer, but a darned bus! And as for jobs, it doesn't look too good either. :angry:Guest_Chatter163 said:The changes are much more involved than just these routes.
Amtrak press release on upcoming schedule changes
The times will be reasonable, in fact quite nice. The northbound will call at 5:22 PM while the southbound will call at 10:35 AM. This should really help to increase ridership from the Tampa area.engine999 said:Amtrak would probably get good passanger loads from those station if they offer sevice at reasonable hours of the day. Maybe they will bring back train splitting on one of the two fl service trains.Amtrak OBS Employee said:Yep, the "Palmetto Bug" will soon be departing Florida for good! The situation is good for TPA and LAK, but for WDO, OCA, WWD, and DDE it means no train service any longer, but a darned bus! And as for jobs, it doesn't look too good either. :angry:Guest_Chatter163 said:The changes are much more involved than just these routes.
Amtrak press release on upcoming schedule changes
Actually I thought the press release was rather vague about just what the Star was going to do.rmadisonwi said:The press release implied that the Silver Star would stop in Tampa, then head down to Miami.
However it doesn't really say that it will continue to be the New York-Orlando-Miami Silver Star. It might well become the New York-Orlando-Tampa Silver Star.The Florida cities of Lakeland and Tampa, now served by the Palmetto, will be served instead by the New York-Orlando-Miami Silver Star.
Id like to go on the S-line before it shuts down, however I dont think I will be able to do it. Hopefully service will be restored to the s-line at a later point in time.battalion51 said:BTW, depending on my parents I'm going to try do a Halloween trip on the final run of the Palmetto through to South Florida.
If my memory serves me correctly, they may return to the same or similar schedule prior to 1994. Both trains left SAV and NYP at about 07:00:00 and arrived at their terminating points around 23:00:00 or so. Train #89's schedule is currently close to the old one, but #90's is earlier than the old schedule by several hours.battalion51 said:As far as the Palmetto goes I'd have to think in theory it will have similar times to what it has now, since it's supposed to deliver daylight service to the Carolinas. But as I see it the Star would be running awfully close to it if I'm doing the radio math right.
What I've seen questioned on several boards, but never really answered, is how Amtrak can discontinue the "S" line without the required 180 day notice. Nowhere within the law or related documents, at least that I can find, does it mention anything about a bus being an acceptable substitute (Notice of Discontinuance ). If it was, there would be no need to have operated the Three Rivers, Kentucky Cardinal, or Lake Country Limited for the duration (or indeed, the Desert Wind & Pioneer for their then 90 day requirements). Amtrak appears to be using a curious (to say the least) interpretation of this law, and I'd love to know the justification for it.Amtrak OBS Employee said:I just feel it's ashame to kill that service on the S-line completely. As far as the benefits to the A-line (bringing service back to TPA via ORL, sleeper service, etc) it seems to be a great deal. But killing the S-line is a bad decision on the part of managment in my opinion. Daylight service over there would open up the S-line to it's old time potential. I don't have very much faith in management, but I presume they know what they are doing (I hope)
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