Long Train Runnin'
Engineer
I think its toledo buffalo and albany are the crew points at least for conductors on the lsl route
Maybe it's a "power thing." :lol:I never knew there was somebody who didn't want to blow the whistle and wave at little kids.I'd rather be a conductor, rather than an engineer.
I believe it's 12 hours for conductors... and a little less than that for engineers.
#5 CREW CHANGES:
Chicago, IL
Ottumwa, IA (engineer)
Omaha, NE
Denver, CO
Grand Junction, CO
Salt Lake City, UT
Winnemucca, NV
Reno, NV
Sacramento, CA
Emeryville, CA
#14 CREW CHANGES:
Los Angeles, CA
San Luis Obispo, CA
Oakland, CA
Klamath Falls, OR
Portland, OR
Seattle, WA
#8 CREW CHANGES:
Seattle, WA
Spokane, WA
Whitefish, MT
Havre, MT
Minot, ND
St Cloud, MN
Winona, MN
Chicago, IL
And... I'm not 100 percent sure about #48 and #49. I know I'd be Chicago, Toledo, but not really sure beyond that since I take the train more west out of Chicago than east usually.
That's pretty much how I put it together too.I think its toledo buffalo and albany are the crew points at least for conductors on the lsl route
FYI: My wine cellar is located 2 levels below the lower level (that is, it is located below the pool and hot tub)!I've sneaked through Traveler's car and looked everywhere. -_- The only place I haven't looked is in his champagne locker in his wine cellar. But I'm sure you know why. You know how Traveler can get about intruders.
I thought NHV was a tiny crew base, relegated to Shuttle and SLE service since the electrification to Boston was completed.Regionals change in both NY and New Haven. The main reason for that is the fact that pre-electrification, you went from electrics to diesels and vice versa. It's kept that way today largely because of the contract and perhaps a small bit because of service to Springfield.
#7/27, 8/28 crew change points are;
Seattle
Portland
Wenatchee (engineer only)
Pasco ( engineer only)
Spokane
Whitefish, MT (engineer only)
Shelby, MT
Minot, ND
St Cloud, MN
Winona, MN
Chicago
I might not be rolling along the high iron for a class I, but I am NORAC qualified as a conductor and engineer, and I have to say I much prefer being a conductor. Even though on paper the responsibilities of the conductor require a lot more I find those duties to be quite simple. When I am sitting in the cab of a locomotive I'm always apprehensive, since its my hand pulling the throttle back, and its my responsibility to sound the horn at the crossings. Then there is the possibility (although in my case pretty slim) that there might be an object on the tracks from debris to a living breathing human being, and all I can do is dump the air brakes and hope I can get the train stopped. I don't know maybe more time in the cab will help me become more relax and focused, but at the moment I would much rather be a conductor. Just my 2 cents from having the pleasure of operating a 1942 GE 25 tonner.I never knew there was somebody who didn't want to blow the whistle and wave at little kids.# I think I'd still prefer to be a conductor, rather than an engineer.
That was a kewl post !!I might not be rolling along the high iron for a class I, but I am NORAC qualified as a conductor and engineer, and I have to say I much prefer being a conductor. Even though on paper the responsibilities of the conductor require a lot more I find those duties to be quite simple. When I am sitting in the cab of a locomotive I'm always apprehensive, since its my hand pulling the throttle back, and its my responsibility to sound the horn at the crossings. Then there is the possibility (although in my case pretty slim) that there might be an object on the tracks from debris to a living breathing human being, and all I can do is dump the air brakes and hope I can get the train stopped. I don't know maybe more time in the cab will help me become more relax and focused, but at the moment I would much rather be a conductor. Just my 2 cents from having the pleasure of operating a 1942 GE 25 tonner.I never knew there was somebody who didn't want to blow the whistle and wave at little kids.# I think I'd still prefer to be a conductor, rather than an engineer.
Unless the crew flings themselves out a window while the train is still moving, a crew change can take place in just a couple of minutes. Still, the changes do usually occur at regular service stops so the the expiring crew can step off, and the new crew can step on and get oriented with the current goings-on.I always thought crew changes corresponded with the longer stops, e.g. Havre, MT and St. Paul, MN. Shelby and St. Cloud are not very long stops - I take that to mean that a crew change can be accomplished fairly quickly.
#7/27, 8/28 crew change points are;
Seattle
Portland
Wenatchee (engineer only)
Pasco ( engineer only)
Spokane
Whitefish, MT (engineer only)
Shelby, MT
Minot, ND
St Cloud, MN
Winona, MN
Chicago
Hey, never say never!It's too late for me, and all I can do is is enjoy going along for the Amtrak ride. :lol:
AlohaHey, never say never!It's too late for me, and all I can do is is enjoy going along for the Amtrak ride. :lol:Didn't Colonel Sanders start KFC when he was something like 60 or 70?
I thought of responding "never say never", The_Traveler beat me to it, , oh well.
:lol: Ya gotta be quick. Traveler doesn't miss a second.AlohaHey, never say never!It's too late for me, and all I can do is is enjoy going along for the Amtrak ride. :lol:Didn't Colonel Sanders start KFC when he was something like 60 or 70?
Thayer, When I read your message I thought of responding "never say never", The_Traveler beat me to it, , oh well.
I'd rather stay overnight in a hotel than at NYP!NYP will probably be an overnight stop for a couple of other Amtrak trips we're thinking about.
You're killin' me. :lol:I'd rather stay overnight in a hotel than at NYP!NYP will probably be an overnight stop for a couple of other Amtrak trips we're thinking about.
You forgot to mention seeing downtown Shelby, MT! How could you forget the bar and casino across the station's parking lot?
I believe that Oakland is not a crew change on 14 but that they are actually in San Jose which may be engineer only and Sacramento which is a full crew change point.#14 CREW CHANGES:
Los Angeles, CA
San Luis Obispo, CA
Oakland, CA
Klamath Falls, OR
Portland, OR
Seattle, WA
On this leg of my journey, I guess I'll just have to wing it. :unsure: Fortunately, of the five legs on my journey, # 14 has the lowest history "Service Disruptions," so in late September this year the question is largely academic. hboy:I believe that Oakland is not a crew change on 14 but that they are actually in San Jose which may be engineer only and Sacramento which is a full crew change point.#14 CREW CHANGES:
Los Angeles, CA
San Luis Obispo, CA
Oakland, CA
Klamath Falls, OR
Portland, OR
Seattle, WA
Yup. San Jose is Engineer only. The Conductors go through from Sacramento to San Louis Obispo. BTW rtbern's list is missing Sacramento, which is a crew change point for both Conductors and Engineer.I believe that Oakland is not a crew change on 14 but that they are actually in San Jose which may be engineer only and Sacramento which is a full crew change point.#14 CREW CHANGES:
Los Angeles, CA
San Luis Obispo, CA
Oakland, CA
Klamath Falls, OR
Portland, OR
Seattle, WA
I'm not up on current US operating rules but is there no standing brake test required when engineers change?A crew change can occur in less than a minute if they really had to. All it takes is for the arriving engineer and conductors to step off, and the new ones to get on.
If an engineer or conductor changes without the other, then they have to do a crew briefing, which can be as quick as a minute or as long as...however long it takes to go over any slow orders or special bulletins that apply to the train.
As for 48/49, the crews work CHI-TOL, TOL-BUF, BUF-ALB (conductor), BUF-SYR (engineer), SYR-ALB (engineer), and ALB-NYP.
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