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maybe there can be a train thru Latvia - Lithuania - Poland - Germany?
There are plenty of flights to take from the various Moscow Airports to the west or east. Almost every major airline is still flying out of Moscow. So no one needs to worry about convoluted train routes. I doubt that Air traffic bans is in the cards. UK was apparently a one off deal.maybe there can be a train thru Latvia - Lithuania - Poland - Germany?
According to seat61 there are trains but they may be canceled due to COVID.maybe there can be a train thru Latvia - Lithuania - Poland - Germany?
Is this a good thing? It seems to be shouting about certain countries being "Bad Guys", but still happy to do business with them?US has avoided banning flights or overflights so far. UA 801/802 EWR-DEL-EWR and UA 289/830 EWR-BOM-EWR are fl;ying as usual through Russian airspace. Air Canada and Air India re also flying as usual across Russia on their India - US/Canada nonstops. Qantas is still flying their non stop London - Darwin flight across Russia.
It is an indication of how far they are willing to go, but that has little to do with the subject of this thread which is primarily operations through the single route across Afghanistan and by extension flights over Russian airspace that is used predominantly to get to it typically as part of a Polar or sub-Polar route from South and Southeast Asia.Is this a good thing? It seems to be shouting about certain countries being "Bad Guys", but still happy to do business with them?
The situation is now very different on Sunday. Most of Western Europe has already banned or are about to ban Russian overflight. Virtually the only significant foreign usage of Russian airspace, though at a reduced level, is by US, Asian countries. China is the largest foreign user of Russian airspace this Sunday. Until yesterday Finland was a huge user, but not today. There is a mutual ban about to go in force. Australia has also stopped overflying Russia on its London - Darwin flight.There are plenty of flights to take from the various Moscow Airports to the west or east. Almost every major airline is still flying out of Moscow. So no one needs to worry about convoluted train routes. I doubt that Air traffic bans is in the cards. UK was apparently a one off deal.
You can fly non-stop to LAX or JFK or FRA or CDG or FRA or Madrid or Delhi etc. etc. sometimes by multiple airlines, even tomorrow.
US carriers have reverted back to the routes that they used in Soviet days before Eastern Siberia was opened up. I could not find any US plane in Russian airspace there.JIS: How about the route over Alaska that uses to use the far eastern edge of Russia?
Russia is notorious for demanding some of the highest overflight fees in the world, so I'm presuming this change is likely to be a bigger penalty to them than it is a bonanza for the dozen or so countries that may see a portion of their redirected flights. Any airline that continues to fly to/from/over Russian airspace with non-Russian aircraft (or engines) risks getting stuck there due to the difficulty of procuring replacement parts or making large reserve denominated purchases. The reverse is true for Aeroflot in that even approved flights to/from/through Western countries risk losing access to aircraft they can no longer pay to lease.Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Iran, Pakistan and India are reaping a bonanza of overflight fees out of all this.
Incidentally KL had to discontinue flying to Mscow because they were apparently told that there is no Jet fuel to be had in Moscow, so either they tanker or don't fly. They chose the latter.
While Russia pumps and supplies many petrol products I'm not sure how a major airline would go about purchasing it. I guess they would have to use some sort of cryptocurrency or bartering process.Incidentally Korean Airlines had to discontinue flying to Mscow because they were apparently told that there is no Jet fuel to be had in Moscow, so either they tanker or don't fly. They chose the latter.
Very legitimate question. Sorry, meant to say Korean Airlines by typing KAL, but the A got dropped by my keyboard. It could not possibly be Kuala Lumpur or Kaliningrad since they don't fly and it could not be KLM since currently they are banned from the Russian airspace Anyhow I have fixed it in the original.Forgive the stupid question, but which KL is this? Kuala Lumpur or KLM or something else (Kaliningrad perchance)?
Thanks, I hadn't even thought of KAL.Very legitimate question. Sorry, meant to say Korean Airlines by typing KAL, but the A got dropped by my keyboard. It could not possibly be Kuala Lumpur or Kaliningrad since they don't fly and it could not be KLM since currently they are banned from the Russian airspace Anyhow I have fixed it in the original.
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